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- Read: Marriage Under Fire
- Watch: Learn to Fight Fair
- Read: Bonding in Marriage
- Listen: Today’s Black Robe Brigade
- Listen: Being a Conservative Crusader I
- Listen: Being a Conservative Crusader II
Topic: Respond to the following:
- What two to three principles did you take away from the various broadcasts over the past couple of weeks?
- Do you believe we are a nation abandoned by God?
- Of the lessons you learned and the insights you may have gained, how will you make practical applications as it relates to advocacy and public policy?
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MarriageUnderFire.pdf
Learn to Fight Fair
Here’s Dr James Dobson with family talk. Since there’s conflict in every
romantic relationship learning to fight fair just might be the most
important lesson any couple can master you know there’s a real difference
between healthy and unhealthy combat and marriage and everything depends on
the way disagreements are handled in an unstable marriage hostility
is usually meant to hurt and it’s often directed at the soft underbelly
of the partner’s ego with comments like you never do anything right then why
did I marry you in the first place and I think you’re getting more
like your mother every day these words strike at the very heart
of a mate self-worth on the other hand healthy conflict remain centered
on the immediate problem at hand for example it upsets me when you don’t
tell me you’ll be late for dinner or I was embarrassed when he made me look
foolish at the party last night can you hear the difference even though the
subject matter might be equally emotional intense the focus is on the specific
problem in the relationship and not on what you perceive as a basic
personality defect of your mate when couples learn this important distinction
they have the freedom to disagree and work through conflicts with
their dignity still intact to James Dobson with family talk.
Bonding in Marriage
Here’s Dr. James Dobson
with family talk. In marriage as
in courtship, there’s a simple rule
of thumb for animacy. Take your time. Some interesting
research has been done recently on the emotional bonding between husbands
and wives. According to
Dr. Donald joy, a couple bonds most closely when they
move slowly and systematically through
the various stages of animacy during their courtship and
early marriage. When later stages are
reached prematurely, such as when couples kiss passionately
on the first day, or have sexual intercourse shortly thereafter, something precious is lost in the bonding is
short-circuited. The strongest
marriages often occur where couples
have walked slowly and deliberately through the progressive stages
of physical intimacy, saving sexual consummation
for the honeymoon. This concept is
important for singles, but it also has
something to say for married
couples as well. Husbands and
wives often make the mistake of rushing
their intimacy, are taking it for granted. But they also bond together best when
they journey through the steps of intimacy regularly during
their daily lives. Touching, talking,
holding hands, gazing into one
other’s eyes and building memories
are as important to partners in their
midlife years as to rambunctious 20-year-old Soto lovers of all ages, I say slow it down,
make it last. Take your time. Dr. James Dobson
with family talk.
Today’s Black Robe Brigade
Welcome to family
talk with host, psychologist and author in my father, Dr.
James Dobson. I’m Ryan Dobson here with my co-host, Luann crane. Always good to be
here with you and all of our listeners
who carved out time to be
with us today. And Dr. It is Monday, we are all back to the
grind of the ordinary. Well, that work is
going to be done on behalf of family
talk obviously. And today, we have a very provocative program to share with
our listeners. And it has to do with something
as important as censorship of
the church by governmental agencies and particularly the IRS. And we have two very
knowledgeable guests with us who will explain that situation for us. And I hope that, that
every listener will pay close attention
today because it has major implications
for the future. And especially I hope pastors are listening
and they’re not right for a CD and we will send it to you to give to them because the
pastures are the key. They can call us or go to our website our website
as family talk.org. Our phone number
is 87773268 to five or send them a
link to the podcast. Dr. Well, first we’re joined in the studio
today by one of the lawyers who work
side-by-side with our good friend Alan Sears at the Alliance
Defense Fund. Eric Stanley is
senior counsel for ATF’s Kansas City
Regional Service Center. He’s a member
of the bar in three states
and specializes in the pellet law, free speech and
religious liberties as they relate to
constitutional law, just to name a few. Eric, Did I get it right? I think you got it
right. In Iraqi. Don’t look old enough
to be a senior counsel. Lot of experience. I can tell you what
I know a lot about this man from
my friendships. But then they DF and this man knows what
he’s talking about. Also joining
us by phone is another frequent guest on this program,
Dr. Jim Carlo. Dr. Carlo is the
senior pastor of Skyline Wesleyan
Church in California. A very courageous pasture. And I tell you what, I have great love and appreciation
for this man. So thank you
both gentlemen for being with us today. Yeah. Eric, I’m on to toss a first
question to you, and it is pretty
straightforward. Pastors are often
intimidated and even bullied when it comes
to moral issues, especially from
behind the Pope it and that has great
relevance to the church. Explain why this
intimidation is occurring. Well, it really all
started back in 1954 from the beginning of America until
950 for pastors could speak about anything that they wanted
from the Pullman. They didn’t have
to worry about a governmental agency breathing down
their neck or trying to censor
their sermons. But in 950 for with the passage of
what we call the Johnson Amendment, named after
Lyndon B Johnson, who was a senator
at the time. And just to give you a very brief snapshot
of how he did that, he was running
for re-election for the US Senate
seat for Texas. And he was being
opposed by two secular non-profit
organizations. They thought
he was soft on communism and didn’t
like his views. And Johnson tried to find some different ways to silence these non-profit
organizations. And he finally
hit on an idea. He showed up on
the floor of the Senate July second, 950 for and he offered
an amendment to an existing tax
overhaul bill that was pending
before the Senate. And that’s what we call the Johnson
amendment. And it basically says that non-profit entities
could not participate in or intervene in any
political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate
for public office. And that included
publishing or distributing
statements. And the legislative
history of the Johnson Amendment is literally
two paragraphs long in the
congressional record. Now, in a day and
age where we have 1000 page bills that are coming out of Congress. That’s pretty
extraordinary. But this
legislative history shows that Johnson
had already grease the wheels behind the scenes with the
sponsor of the tax bill. And it passed unanimously
by a voice vote, and it was added
to the bill. The bill went on to
pass the Senate and went on to pass the House and was signed into law. And suddenly overnight, this bill that was
intended to silence to secular non-profit organizations that
were opposing Johnson’s candidacy
for the Senate was applied to
churches also, because churches occupy the same non-profit status that those secular non-profit
organizations did. And prior to that, there was no such
restriction on them. There was absolutely
no restriction for the first 166 years
of American history, pastor spoke forcefully
from the pulpit. In fact, historians
have said that we owe our independence
and great degree to the moral force
of the pulpit. Pastors have spoken out on the great moral and
social issues of the day. Civil rights, women’s suffrage ending
child labor, all of these things. Pastor spoke freely
on our good friend, David Barton at wall
builders pulled some sermons for
us in the past and history and
talking about how pastures frequently spoke out during
election time. And they spoke out on candidate’s going back to the election of
Thomas Jefferson, which was the architect of the so-called separation
of church and state. Pastors are
speaking out about his candidacy
for president. And we’re saying don’t vote for him or
vote for him. And they didn’t
have to worry about the IRS or anybody
else coming in and threatening their
tax exempt status or in any way trying to
punish or censor them. And it’s been
since 950 for that this cloud of
intimidation and this atmosphere
of fear has pervaded the church to
the point now where pastors back away
from saying anything that might get anywhere close to violating
this line. So it really, it fosters an atmosphere of a lot
of chill on speech, a lot of self-censorship among the pasture it, pastors are just afraid because they don’t know
where the line is. And when attorneys argue over where the line is, which they do,
how are we to expect our pastors to know what’s
right and wrong? Sometimes it
actually didn’t even originate in the whole separation
of church and state debate that
we hear today. This came from someone that was trying
to get elected, that was trying to
silence people and then just got pushed over
on the pastors. Well, that’s right.
And I think it’s important for folks to understand the history of how this came to pass. Because for about two
or three generations now we’ve grown up
in the church and I have to kind of believing that it’s
somehow illegal or on laws that come like a constitutional
amendment has the right. That’s exactly
right. That it’s this assumption
that your pastures shouldn’t talk
about anything, quote, political
from the pulpit. And it never used to be
that way in and only started becoming that way with the Johnson
Amendment. And which was really a politically revenge
motivated bill. Hmmm. How about what
President Johnson did there when he
was a senator? Is that unconstitutional? Because it sure
sounds that way. It is. And for so many years we’ve kind
of believed the lie, so to speak, that this is a law that applies
to churches. But it really is. The more we looked
at it at ADF, we really came to
the conclusion that this is
unconstitutional. It violates not only the free exercise
of religion, it violates the
Establishment Clause because you’re
setting up the IRS as a government agency to come into a pulp
it into sensor. What a pastor says
from the pulpit. You the IRS has
interpreted and enforce this for the
last 57 years now. And they specifically
say that it applies to what a pastor says from the pulpit. And so when you set up a regime where you have the irs coming in to censor a pasture sermon that’s unconstitutional. And certainly, what
we’ve come to believe in witches truth is that the first amendment trumps the Johnson
Amendment. Jim, talk about that
chilling effect that they’re
just mentioned. Seven year history can
make quite an impact. I would like to
fellow pastor who might be supportive
of not speaking out. How’s that working out for you? Here’s our community. Our community is more
or less righteous. Today. Is our preaching, producing less or more results than in the past? The fact is too
many pastures are gripped with
fear or the fear is not ultimately of the IRS that goes deeper
than that. And that is fear
of parishioners who will say, Oh, pasture, You’re just to political will in reality. Because that
cultural myths in the mind of the
Pew Center, the eraser, effectively a very dysfunctional
church. It, the problem is, they don’t
actually recognize what biblical
preaching is like. The early pastures in America that were already referred to by Erik. Preach, three hour-long election sermon January, I’m not advocating
this pasture. Try a three hour one that will work very well. But the fact that a pasture would weigh
in on these issues, and I personally am
convinced I look at a little bit different
than my friend Eric. Eric looked at as
an attorney to legal lands and he’s
right to do that. I look at it through
the spiritual lands that we
will not have the next greatest
spiritual awakening in destination until the
puppets are free. This is a spiritual issue in Isaiah chapter 58. We need a fast to
break the yoke of fear and the cultural
myth off the pulpit. And also piu that has
really been put on us from 1954 to the
present with a straw. I’m Dr. Carlo, I’ve heard recently
that what you’re talking about really
is living out the scripture
that says love your neighbor as yourself
from the pulpit. Because if you’re a
pastor and you say, I love the people
around me, well then I want them to have the best opportunity to grow up and the
best environment for them to have
healthy families that will allow me to
speak in their lives, to teach them about Jesus. And the pastors
that aren’t talking about the
issues that are destroying families, they’re destroying
communities. They’re wrecking
Holmes clearly aren’t loving their
neighbours as themselves, could not be dated better than what
you get out. What really occurred
is remarkable. We were given. That was his seizures given to God, that
which is God. But I like the last line of the Manhattan
declaration, written by Robby George, the Catholic out of
Princeton University and Timothy George, the Dean of the
Divinity School at Stanford University in Birmingham, Alabama. The last line of
it is as follows. We will fully and
on grudgingly render to Caesar
what is seizures. But under no
circumstances will we render to Caesar
what is God? Now what had
happened is that line of what belongs to Caesar had been pushed over and over into that, which is God. Just
think for a minute. 50 years ago, if we were to shed during up a baby in the womb is wrong. Everybody was said yes. But now if you it ball but you’re considered
to be political. 30 years ago,
if we just set the practice of
homosexuality is a fan. Everybody was said yes. But now if you
say that Nepal, but now you’re being
too political. Ten years ago we
would’ve said marriage if a
man and a woman. Now if you say that Nepal, but you’re considered to be too political leader has moved in and the
result it a killing, violating impact on
pastures that had a catastrophic results
in our communities, our families and
on individuals. Just a garlands
will address that sense there
right now, who says that you
have no idea? I asked Democrats,
republicans, libertarians, independents in
my congregation as I speak out on this, my whole congregation
will divide. Well, I’d say number
one, probably all of us, most of us have people of all political ideology
than our congregation. The fact is that we’re
not committed to, any of them were
not Republican, Democrat, Independent
or anything else. We were fiercely committed
to biblical truth. What God’s word says, we must speak out on, imagine if you would, the pastures back before the Civil War
saying I can’t speak out on slavery because it would split
my congregation. The irony is that
exactly what some congregations
that and what they did and what pasture said in that timeframe. Now how do we look at
those kind of people? They sold out
on the word of God because of
political expediency. If they had it
versus truth, they chose, they chose
piece over truth. And how do we view them? I’m a part of a very
small denomination called a westerly
denomination. That Wesleyan denomination
was formed for the purpose of freeing the slaves from the south. And I spoke out
on the women’s right to vote issue, that the first
women’s right to vote Conference
was held out. What planned church
in Seneca Falls, New York and 840 gate. I can’t imagine today some pastures saying How dare pastoral
ancestors which speak out on these
political issues, a flavor out there
that can speak out on political issues like women’s right to vote. But they did because
it was morally, biblically right. And so a pastor who’s
fiercely committed a scripture is not looking to be a
weather vane. What in the world is
being fed from the Pew? He’s looking to the
Word of God to speak for God and to the culture in which
we find ourselves. Yeah, Jim, you’re
not primarily urging pastors to endorse political
candidates, right? That’s not what your, uh, your Aster mean. It may involve the
freedom to do that. But there’s a much
larger issue here. Yeah, it has to do with endorsing what God says. And God’s word
is crystal clear that the destruction
of a baby in the womb, if an animal and
horrific act. That being the
case, it is totally appropriate based up not only on biblical
authority, but our constitutional
freedoms, freedom of speech and
freedom of religion. Based upon the
First Amendment, any pastor has
the legal right to say anything he or
she wants from Nepal, but including to
say the following. For example, the
following candidates band on the
following issues. Abortion, definition
of marriage, issues of national
debt, et cetera. The scripture would teach them about those
following issues. Based upon that, as followers of Jesus Christ, fully devoted followers
of Jesus Christ, we would want
to lift up and exalt over our
nation those who would be the best
representation of what God has ordained for national
and community life. That every pastor
should have the legal right to do. Eric, should this battle they’ve sought out as a
constitutional issue. You’re an attorney,
obviously, you’re thinking
in those terms. So this eventually wind up before the
Supreme Court. Well, we think it should, because initially when this Johnson
Amendment was passed and it was
inserted into the IRS code in 950. For those
constitutional issues were never addressed. They were never debated. This past without any
legislative analysis. There was no
committee hearings. There was no attempt to discover how this would affect the
constitutional rights of pastors and churches. Am I correct in saying
that the IRS has never successfully taken away the non-profit status
from a church. Yeah, that’s a
correct statement. The IRS has only in
one reported case, revoked the tax exempt
letter of a church, which is different than the status of a church. Under the IRS code, churches do not need a tax exempt letter from the IRS to be
considered exempt. They’re automatically
exempt. They occupy that status simply because
they are a church. And that’s a nod
that Congress gave to the constitutional
freedoms of churches. They don’t want
churches to have to register with the government
in order to be considered tax exempt. And so churches
occupy that status. That status has never been taken away by the IRS. Some churches do
get a letter from the IRS saying that
they are tax exempt, but it’s not
necessary to do that. And the one case where that tax exempt letter was taken away
from a church, the church
actually went way, way, way out of bounds, put a full-page ad
in the USA today, urging Christians
to vote against a particular candidate
for president, and solicited funds to
help pay for the ad. Never argue that
that was part of their free
exercise of religion was when the that
was reinstated and the letter
was reinstated. The church never had
to pay any penalties or taxes as a
result, really. Alright, we’ve got about three or four
minutes left and we need to talk
about what people can do about this, said, Jim, weigh
in on that. What are you planning? Over? The second is extremely important day for America, for American Christianity, that they are
political freedom. We encourage people
to go to Pulpit Freedom.comma. What happened is
the ADF and AD FS over 2 thousand
Allied Attorney. Thank God for Eric
who you have on there and many others
just like him, who are willing
to defend us as pastors pro bono to stand on our
biblical authority and our constitutional
rights. The result is the ADF encourage a group
of pastors, small select group and 2008 to speak out boldly, they would in
their sermons actually challenged, by virtue of the
content of sermons, challenge the
Johnson amendment. They tape
recorded them and they sent them to the IRS. Thirty-three
pastors did that. Nothing happened
in 2009 AT for pasture to do
the same thing. Nothing happened in 20 CAN 100 pastures
did the same thing. Nothing happen. This year. We would like to
see a minimum of 500 to 1000 or more. Pastures do the
same thing. And people can earn their pastures to be bold. And I want to
encourage people to do that because if
a pastor speak, shout, be assured there’s one or two or three
or four people who are going to stay
in that congregation. I’m going to leave and go to some other church and take my tie,
check with me. And that intimidates
pastures. So if you have a pasture
really willing to speak out and
stand with him, encourage him,
by all means, pasture our
curriculum to go to Pulpit Freedom.com. There’s a one-minute
video clip people going to watch as a
place to sign up. And then we have webinars will be listed there
as well in the future, taking place each
Wednesday for pastures and Christian leaders
across America. So they can be
more informed about how to re-establish their religious
liberties that people knew in this
country before 1954. It’s Pulpit
Freedom.com and Dr. Karla will also have links to that
information at Sammy talk.org and eats. We are trained at
literally hundreds of testers will be encouraged to
get involved. And if we do not
take action, we will kinda
quickly like Canada, they want a friend of mine flew up there to preach. A week on services. Formed as he
went up there do not mentioned the
word homosexuality. Do not mentioned
the word Islam. And before long, I
suspect you will not be able to actually
define marriage. What’s ironic in this Dr. Dobson is what we’re
talking about, freedom and pop, it
applies to all pastures. They would apply to conservative
Biblical pastures, as well as we
would apply it actually to
liberal bastion. It would apply to any
faster by virtue of our constitutional protections of the
First Amendment. But on a deeper
issue with me, I want to restate
what I said earlier. I believe a
spiritual awakening that we all long for will not occur in America until a number of ingredients
come together. And one of those is an emboldening
corporate America. Dr. Carlo, I’ve experienced
that firsthand. I was in Canada not
too many months ago. And as I was going
through customs, they said, are you here
for work or pleasure? I said I’m here for
work and they said, What do you do? And I said I’m
a speaker in the customs agent
looked at me funny and she said, What are you here
to speak on? I said, Oh, I’m here
on the sanctity of human life and a
pro-life event. And she said, Are
we going to have any problems from you? And I was done. It did never dawned on me. I said No, not at all. And she goes,
Are you sure Is there going to
be a protest? I said No, there’s
no protest. This is totally peaceful. And I got question for quite some
time at customs based on my belief in the sanctity
of human life. And it was a
sock and I saw this not happen
in America, but that’s where
we’re heading. If we’re not careful,
I wish we could give pastures who
are willing to stand up an award. I would call
to Jonas Clark award one year ago, David Martin and
I did a 12 day two are called
the Next Great Awakening tour of Boston, New York, Philadelphia,
Washington DC, Harvard, Yale,
Princeton, et cetera. But the highlighted
a whole trip for me is only drove by
and Lexington, Massachusetts, the
home of Jonas Clark. He was the pasture or Paul Revere was
writing the night of the famous Midnight Ride and read the news
trying to get there. You want to get there
before the British were coming district
the destroys, the kill or get rid of. Clark, why the pastures in America we’re speaking
truth and freedom, and boldness and
righteousness and the enemy, the truth and freedom
wanted to stop that. Took Paul Revere to try to get there TO warn him. I wish we could give a
Jonas Clark award for every pastor
who’s willing to stand up in such a way. And so being the
enemies of truth and freedom will certainly
come after us. But it’s worth standing
for the truth of God as one is
called by God. Jim, just very
quick glazed. Explain what the black robe
regiment was like. Has that played
a major role in the Revolutionary War? Oh, it did. And
accuse right off of this Jonas Clark
sto
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